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When Heather McMahan isn’t looking for a reason to take off
Europe
—where she mentions “a burden is removed from my shoulders” each time she sets foot back onto its land—she decides to embark on a cruise. Actually, for her most recent voyage, she reserved the whole vessel to accommodate a few thousand fans.
the Caribbean
. This week, the comedian joins Lale in the studio to share tales from her
Absolutely Knot
cruise, explain why the
Amalfi Coast
It brings eternal healing to her, and they discuss the happiness she derives from performing for crowds across various regions of the US.
Lale Arikoglu:
Hello, I’m Lale Arikoglu, welcoming you to another session of Women Who Travel. This time, my special guest is actress, stand-up comedian, and podcast host, Heather McMahan. She likely has no place in the world that she adores as much as
Italy
, and we will definitely cover that topic subsequently. Actually, I am heading over there now.
Sicily
in just a few weeks, but the day she came into our studio in New York, she was getting ready to perform at the Beacon Theater as part of her Bamboozled Tour. She’s going to chat about her podcast
Absolutely Not
, her passion for aviation, her personally planned cruise, and her friend Jane Fonda.
Heather McMahan:
When I began discussing politics during this part of my tour, I named it the ‘Bamboozled Tour.’ This title reflects how women often feel deceived or confused. On one side, there are those who believe they’re achieving everything; on the opposite end, others doubt themselves, feeling inadequate regardless of their efforts. Women impose immense pressure upon themselves, leading us to overwhelm ourselves with responsibilities. Consequently, many experience heightened stress levels, affecting both mental health and physical well-being. As an example, even now, speaking here, sweat is soaking through my silk suit. Figuring out equilibrium within various roles—sisterhood, relationships, motherhood, careers—is challenging. Each woman juggles numerous identities yet must present herself flawlessly online, embodying perfection in every aspect of life, including parenthood organizations. The expectation can be overwhelming for everyone involved.
Thus, the discussions have been quite varied, and I’ve been genuinely surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reaction to many points I make during my performances. Women seem to relate deeply, expressing feelings of shared anxiety, frustration, and weariness with what I talk about onstage.
LA:
You’re extremely candid on your podcast.
HM:
I am.
LA:
Absolutely Not
, I love it.
HM:
Oh, thank you.
LA:
You discuss topics ranging from feeling great to feeling down.
HM:
Absolutely. My podcast can be described as a raw outpouring of my current state of mind. Essentially, it’s a continuous flow of thoughts reflecting whatever is happening in my life at the moment—what transpired during the last weekend while touring around the globe. As a comedian constantly traveling, I find myself hopping from planes to trains, cars to rental vehicles, even riding jet skis; basically, every mode of transport imaginable comes into play. The podcast serves as a comfortable outlet for me to recount these experiences freely. Additionally, listeners can reach out via a dedicated phone line. Since I spend most of my time on the road, adapting to this lifestyle feels natural to me.
LA:
Which sounds really glamorous.
HM:
Moreover, it’s the exact opposite. Indeed, precisely the reverse is true. Just reached a million miles with Delta, which means I’ve traveled a million miles, and my spouse mentioned… I felt incredibly proud about achieving this milestone. I’m quite the Delta loyalist. They really have my devotion.
LA:
Was it simply because your app was updated, or did you receive balloons or some kind of celebration at the entrance?
HM:
You get a fanfare-
LA:
Oh, my God.
HM:
… with balloons at the entrance. This was a significant moment for me, and since I am passionate about aviation, I found it incredibly exciting. However, my spouse commented, “Heather, honestly, considering how much we’ve invested in Delta up until now, you might have been able to fly privately.” I’m not sure whether this counts as something worth boasting over, but still, being a child raised around airlines, I enjoy things just the way they are. Yet, whenever possible, I attempt to add some glamour to these experiences. Despite those rare special occasions, most of my weekends pass behind the scenes in dimly lit theaters.
LA:
So, how do you create that sense of glamor and capture those special moments?
HM:
Sure, I’m definitely always adorned with something bedazzled or perhaps sporting a sleek silk suit.
LA:
You are looking bedazzled today.
HM:
Thank you.
LA:
The Prada bag that-
HM:
The Prada bag.
LA:
I jotted down the time when you entered.
HM:
Certainly. I purchased this Prada bag when I got married in Italy, hence the reason for buying it over there.
Florence
My comedic approach closely mirrors Joan Rivers’ style. I enjoy adorning myself with feathers, faux furs, glitter, and sequins when performing. Being sparkly and glamorous on stage is something I truly relish, allowing me to sport many wonderful outfits. However, during regular days, I prioritize comfort. A small bag filled with snacks accompanies me everywhere, and my carry-on luggage is always perfectly organized according to my precise preferences.
LA:
We’ll delve deeper into travel later, but your home base is Atlanta?
HM:
My home is Atlanta.
LA:
I believe this place should also be considered part of Delta’s territory, though perhaps it’s best not to dwell too much on that fact.
HM:
Delta certainly has its main base here, doesn’t it? I spent years living in both New York City and Los Angeles. During the pandemic, though, my spouse—a true-blue native New Yorker through and through—suggested we move to Georgia. “Why not?” I figured, thinking about having a place with a swimming pool. It’s turned out wonderfully so far, plus I’ve got my own studio space down south. However, I find myself frequently traveling between different locations including our home city.
LA:
Atlanta sounds like quite an impressive city. Although I haven’t visited, I’ve received nothing but positive feedback, particularly regarding its vibrant music scene and culinary delights; it’s buzzing with activity these days.
HM:
The atmosphere is fantastic, and everyone enjoys hanging out in Atlanta. There’s plenty of fun to be had with top-notch sports teams and incredible dining options. Plus, we’ve got genuine Southern charm. To my mind, this makes it the heart of the South. The folks here are incredibly welcoming and delightful. Indeed, I grew up in Atlanta. Although I haven’t called it home continuously since adolescence, returning now always feels like coming back to where I genuinely belong. Being on tour frequently, it’s comforting to find solace in such an authentic hometown feel.
LA:
Had you to rediscover everything from scratch? Make new acquaintances, discover your own interpretation of Atlanta?
HM:
It’s an excellent point. In fact, I relocated back into my old family house, which means I essentially returned to square one. However, I consider myself fortunate because most of my closest pals from childhood still live nearby and have built their own lives there. This has allowed us to maintain our strong bond as a fantastic circle of friends. That said, since moving here, I’ve become part of a local country club and often find myself participating in nine-hole games with several spirited 77-year-olds who enjoy sipping three glasses of Chardonnay before offering me cigarettes afterward. It feels quite natural for me; fitting perfectly within this environment. At present, I’m striving to transform my parents’ former residence into what truly feels like mine now. Nevertheless, I am deeply grateful for having such supportive companions around me initially.
LA:
It must seem surreal. The last time I was back home in
London
, I was operating from the
Condé Nast Traveler
The London office, where I was temporarily based at my parents’ place, reminded me of my old routine. I found myself catching the same bus I used to take for high school, heading towards the office. My father would be standing on the front path waving as I left, just like those mornings when I went to school.
HM:
Sure, yes, my mother resides with me, and even though I’m 38 years old, if I decide to take a nap, she’ll still knock on my bedroom door. Sometimes I tell her, “Mom, when the door’s shut, please honor my privacy.” Though she doesn’t handle my laundry herself, she places it in a basket right at the base of the staircase and shouts up for me to collect it—like I’ve regressed back to being thirteen all over again. Some days, I wonder whether staying here is what we really wish for; although we adore having Mom around, certain moments make me feel as if I might go crazy from frustration. Yes indeed.
LA:
Have you ever ventured into the parts of the South beyond Atlanta? Did you start to realize that perhaps these hidden gems were right under your nose, and instead of heading to New York, you ended up missing out because there was so much to discover here all along?
HM:
I attended university in Mississippi, specifically at the University of Mississippi located in Oxford. I grew so fond of the place that I purchased a home there. This experience has made me feel quite connected to the Southern identity, although I recognize distinctions between what it means to be ‘Mississippi Southern’ versus ‘Georgia Southern.’ It’s fascinating for me now to engage more deeply within these communities beyond just my student days and truly immerse myself in Southern culture.
There are certain areas of the South that still seem almost alien to me. However, I genuinely enjoy visiting places like Charleston and cities such as Nashville and Birmingham. Being both originally from and currently residing in the South brings warmth and hospitality wherever I go; typically, I find plenty of opportunities to have an enjoyable time regardless of where life takes me.
LA:
How does the comedy landscape look in the Southern part of the U.S.?
HM:
It’s fascinating. My audience leans heavily towards females, and I believe I’ve managed to capture a distinctive voice where I vocalize onstage what southern women typically share with one another during private moments at their country clubs while playing Mahjong. Essentially, I’m just speaking those same thoughts louder and more flamboyantly, often dressed in a dazzling outfit. It has proven quite intriguing. Usually, I start new tours and experiment with fresh content at local clubs in Huntsville, Alabama. The city stands out as particularly progressive within an otherwise deeply traditional state. This uniqueness stems from having numerous professionals—engineers, scientists, doctors—who are involved in the aerospace industry residing there.
LA:
When do you recognize that you’re experimenting with content in Huntsville?
HM:
You can sense it within the audience. They make sure you’re aware whether they enjoy what you’re doing, if they disagree with your point of view, or if they resonate with it. This immediacy is one of the most appealing aspects of comedy; you receive instant reactions. However, as an actor, auditions often leave you uncertain—you might not hear back at all, or after some time, you may get producers’ comments, going through various opinions about approval or rejection. In contrast, comedy provides quick responses, and I value such direct feedback. Sometimes, if spectators remain silent during the performance, they might approach you afterward for a meet-and-greet to share their thoughts: “This part didn’t sit well,” “That joke was great,” or even advice like, “Push more here; we found it impactful.” The swift nature of these exchanges creates excitement. Moreover, having grown up hearing every possible critique from my mom, I’ve developed resilience against whatever anyone else in the industry has to offer.
LA:
She’s tapping at your childhood bedroom door.
HM:
Absolutely. My mom was the type who always pushed me to aim high, saying things like “shoot for the moon” and “go for the stars.” However, she wasn’t all about unrealistic dreams; she kept her feet firmly on the ground too. Maybe because of this balanced approach from my family—especially since we were quite humorous—I learned not to tolerate nonsense easily. In our household, everyone would call out BS right away without mincing words. That’s likely why being straightforward doesn’t faze me when performing onstage.
LA:
Following the intermission, the challenge of getting approximately 2,000 individuals aboard a cruise ship and engaging each one in various activities is discussed.
We’ve returned with HM, the comedian and podcaster, who recently appeared at a distinctive location typically visited by top-tier performers including bands, musicians, and comedians, as well as cruise ships.
HM:
Insane.
LA:
You collaborated with a Norwegian team to create a cruise itinerary, and you excelled at it.
HM:
Yes.
LA:
It’s really surprising to me that you ventured into the realm of cruising.
HM:
It was wild, with many comedians gaining recognition from shows aboard various cruise lines. However, Norwegian suggested, “Why not lease a ship, fill it with 2,000 of your supporters, and let you orchestrate every aspect?” We spent four days sailing the seas, stopping off in Nassau, Bahamas, where we also made one port stopover. On board, I invited some fellow comedic friends along with my preferred musical acts, ensuring everything was meticulously planned right down to the smallest details. The ship offered something engaging for everyone involved, making these four days among the best moments of my life. Having once thrown an extravagant Italian-themed wedding in Florence, which remains unforgettable, I can confidently state that this event surpassed even those celebrations. Describing it isn’t easy—it felt akin to combining Greek-letter recruitment week, grade-school sports events, sleepaway camps, and college breaks into one epic adventure. Simply amazing!
LA:
What were your previous experiences with cruises like? Did you enjoy them?Were you intrigued by them? Were you doubtful about them?Had you tried one before?
HM:
Sure thing! Let me share with you how much of a cruise enthusiast I am. Absolutely, growing up meant spending time on various cruise liners. My fondest childhood recollections revolve around lounging in the jacuzzi during our Disney Cruise journey. At just over seven years old, sipping on a non-alcoholic piña colada with my buddies from the Kids’ Club, we’d get so thrilled asking each other, “So who’s hanging out with Mickey and Minnie tonight?” Yep, those times were magical. Cruising has always been an integral part of my life; everyone finds their joy onboard these floating paradises. When asked to be involved in this project, I jumped right into it without hesitation—we simply had to take advantage of such an amazing chance.
I love curating vacations for people. If I did not do what I do now, which is entertain, I would be a travel advisor and I would be putting you in the best hotels in the world because that’s what I love to do.
LA:
And you would be collaborating with
Condé Nast Traveler
.
HM:
Absolutely, I’ve traveled extensively around the globe. Traveling really resonates with my inner performer. If you attend one of my performances or join me on a cruise, your journey begins right when you step through the entrance. From the second you enter the theater, recognizing the tunes on the soundtrack, you feel immersed. The slideshows engage you further, making you feel like an integral member of this global family—a sense of belonging that truly captivates me.
LA:
Tell me a little bit about those four days. If you said you brought, what was it, 2,000 of your fans onto this ship? Who were the fans that came? Were they, I mean, obviously they are fans of yours, but are they also passionate cruise people and did it cross-
HM:
No.
LA:
Oh, so it was-
HM:
A lot of virgins. A lot of cruise virgins, yes.
LA:
Oh, very interesting.
HM:
It was truly wonderful because clearly there’s some reservation involved. For someone who has never been on a cruise before, they might think, “I’m out on the open sea; this is all new to me.”
LA:
“I’m trapped.”
HM:
Sure, I find myself stuck here. It’s true though; so many individuals placed their trust in me regarding their experiences. They understood they would be partaking in something meticulously planned out. Interestingly enough, some feedback from Norwegians mentioned, “We’ve never witnessed a crowd engage as actively across all activities like yours did.” We really—
LA:
What were the activities?
HM:
We organized flip cup competitions, hosted drag brunch events, and even crowned a Mr. Worldwide. Being a huge fan of the artist Pitbull, we set up a challenge where participants submitted videos of themselves dressing up like him and performing a lip-sync routine.
LA:
Which has become an Internet sensation.
HM:
To set the record straight, I initiated this trend some time back where everybody would dress up as Pitbull. Last year, I joined in wearing complete Pitbull attire, but the participants didn’t recognize it was me until someone spotted my wedding ring. She exclaimed, “Hold on, Heather, isn’t that really you?”
LA:
Sleuthed you.
HM:
Sure thing! So, we ended up having a Pitbull contest. It went down with music playing all night long. Our top-notch DJ really brought the house down—big shout-out to DJ John Stamps. I told him, “I’d like for you to spin ‘2005’ from Windows to the Walls; that’s what I’m going after.” The dancing continued until around 2:30 AM or even as late as 3:00 AM.
LA:
I mean, folks really step up their game on cruise ships.
HM:
On cruise ships, people tend to be very intense. However, it was enjoyable since nobody judged each other.
LA:
Were there mainly women aboard the vessel?
HM:
We had an abundance of women. There was also a great number of incredibly stylish gay individuals who attended. Everyone felt welcomed, and they certainly added vibrancy to our event. Additionally, many pairs joined us as well. For future cruises, let me suggest this: If you’re a single gentleman, you definitely want to join us. By the end of your voyage, you’ll likely make ten female friends.
Clearly, many women online follow me and engage directly with what I share. However, once these same fans attend live events, their spouses often enjoy watching my comedy specials alongside them. Essentially, I address a wide audience including both genders. In my latest show, I focused on how I work hard to earn more income than some of these viewers’ significant others. My aim is to help male audiences understand female perspectives better—whether those females are wives, girlfriends, or partners. By doing this, I strive to create an inclusive atmosphere where people can unite through shared understanding. Thus, the setting remains welcoming for every attendee.
LA:
How did it feel to establish what seems like quite a secure environment?
HM:
It simply gave me an incredible feeling when people put their trust in me to share this kind of experience with them and allowed me to interact with them personally. After touring for many years, I’ve met so many amazing individuals at my concerts, yet spending four full days out on the open sea with these same attendees seemed daunting initially; however, those turned into some of the most memorable days ever.
LA:
I was curious about how it felt to be constantly active for four days since typically after performing at a show, you get some time to unwind before returning to your hotel or heading home. Presumably, during this event, you had the opportunity to rest aboard the cruise ship. However, aside from that—
HM:
However, truthfully, I didn’t take a break for around five days, yet somehow, driven purely by adrenaline, I managed to keep going without knowing how.
It felt as though I was at my own wedding, greeting everyone with warmth and wanting to spend quality time with each person. I was incredibly thankful for their presence and enjoyment. I immersed myself fully into every activity. Each evening found me at karaoke sessions. My days revolved around performing shows; daily activations took place on the Lido deck, followed by dancing until 2:30 AM. Afterward, I’d head to karaoke which usually ran until 4:00 AM before finally catching some shut-eye around 11:00 AM. Once awake, I would dress up in full-on Pitbull drag and start anew. The experience was absolutely wild.
LA:
What did your voice sound like by the end of it?
HM:
Oh, I lost my voice right from the start.
LA:
Perfect.
HM:
So now I’ve learned. It happened through trial and error; I wasn’t sure if it would succeed. Things progressed very well, with one exception—I lost my voice. Therefore, during the day, [inaudible 00:16:59].
LA:
It all went very well, but I misplaced the essential instrument I use for my performances.
HM:
Sure, it’s fine since being miked allows you to overcome any challenge. Coming from an old-school theater background, I always keep my Throat Coat spray handy. I made sure to do some vocal warm-ups, though I noticed that during the first night, I pushed myself quite hard singing Karaoke until early morning, so I had to ease up a bit.
LA:
Alright, hold up, let’s pause for a moment. What are some of your favorite karaoke tunes to sing?
HM:
Sure thing! You should definitely include Alanis Morissette’s “Jagged Little Pill” album; it’s amazing. And clearly, we can’t forget about the Spice Girls. Just so you’re aware, you’re in the company of the biggest Spice Girls fan globally.
LA:
Oh, how intriguing! You’re seated next to the biggest Spice Girls fanatic globally.
HM:
Sure, sure. Which Spice Girls did you grow up with?
LA:
Alright, so everyone used to say I was fancy, but deep down, I really wished I could be cool like her. This left me quite conflicted, and reflecting back, I realize I should have aimed to be the athletic one instead.
HM:
Absolutely. To be honest, for comfort, nothing beats it. I identified with Ginger. Many folks assume I’m Baby due to the blond hair—it’s actually dyed. But really, I related more to Ginger. When the Spice Girls decided to disband just as they were preparing for their US tour, imagine this scenario: little Baby Heather in fourth grade—this would mark her very first concert experience. She’s wearing an entire outfit made from a Union Jack flag pattern, sewn together personally by her mother. Excitedly heading off to see the Spice Girls perform live, my nine-year-old self believed that despite quitting the group, Ginger would make sure to attend the Atlanta performance since she knew I’d be among the audience.
LA:
Sure, absolutely, she wouldn’t let you down.
HM:
Why did she do that? Suddenly, the girls appear. There were just the four of them involved. Quite absurd. My father brought me to a concert where all my girl friends were too, and I recall him looking down at me saying, “I told you she wouldn’t come.” He had cautioned me earlier, which was hard to take, but Geri, if you ever watch this, know that I still have feelings for you. I care deeply for each one of those girls. Right here and now, though, I can’t express everything else. If the Spice Girls decide to reunite and hit the road again, similar to Taylor Swift’s ‘Eras Tour’, then count me in! I would attend every single performance without fail.
LA:
Oh, definitely. And it seems like I constantly come across these whispers that it’s about to occur.
HM:
It happens approximately every three days.
LA:
Dangle the carrot.
HM:
Absolutely, it happens every three days. The Spice Girls? I mean, please, not happening to me. However, let me tell you something, I swear on this. If they decide to hit the road again for a tour, we’ll be traveling all around, because I adore them tremendously.
LA:
Her early cruises may have influenced Heather’s development as a young explorer, yet impromptu trips in her father’s personal aircraft also played a significant role. Stay tuned for more details.
You’re returning with Women Who Travel. It seems like your podcast covers a wide range of subjects, including very personal ones. Could you share more about the various motivations behind your travels? What benefits have these journeys brought to your life?
HM:
Each summer, I visit a particular spot which happens to be Italy. This hidden gem belongs exclusively to me, unknown even to others. Travel has always held a special charm for me; during my childhood, traveling was commonplace within my family. My father possessed a private pilot’s license and owned a small King Air aircraft, making impromptu trips part of our routine life. Every Friday after picking us up from school, Dad would toss some swimsuits into a canvas sack, and off we’d soar through the skies aboard his plane heading towards an adventure.
LA:
Wait, that’s magical.
HM:
Yeah, it’s magical.
LA:
Where did your father take you?
HM:
We used to visit Hilton Head, head over to Charleston, South Carolina, then hop down to Florida. Eventually, my father even took flights… We frequently traveled to the Turks and Caicos; it became like a second home to us. Our visits date back when their streets were made of limestone. These experiences hold dear memories for me—memories that remain etched in my heart after losing my father. They represent some of the brightest moments of my life. Therefore, having the chance to simply board a plane and explore different places feels incredibly special. However, let’s return to your original point—I apologize for digressing. Each summer, traveling to Italy has become essential for me—it heals something within. The moment I savor my first taste of Cacio e Pepe or Amatriciana, everything changes. It brings out another side of who I am. This is where my roots lie. These are my people. Though my family hails from Sicily, this connection runs deep with each trip.
LA:
I will be traveling to Sicily in one month.
HM:
Let me guide you through all of this.
LA:
Please do.
HM:
It’s astounding. Sicily genuinely feels like a separate nation from Italy. When visiting, you’re venturing into an entirely distinct location. This fact alone makes it remarkable. Furthermore, I’m not implying that drivers behave poorly, yet you’ll find yourself gripping the sides of your rented vehicle due to how recklessly some locals operate their vehicles; perhaps even more so than typical New York City drivers.
Each time I land in Europe, it feels as though a burden has been taken off my shoulders. It’s like I transform into another version of myself. The cuisine seems so authentic, and somehow, even after drinking wine, I don’t get a headache. I treat myself to a leisurely smoke and visit Gucci; then walking out, I think, “Who is this stylish woman?” I can hardly recognize her.
LA:
But this is my-
HM:
That’s therapeutic for me. My aim is to inspire. However, you’re curious about what truly heals. Let me share with you what brings comfort. Visiting the Amalfi Coast, savoring Spaghetti alla Nerano, and perhaps treating yourself to a fresh pair of shades from Gucci—that’s rejuvenating, let’s face it.
LA:
I strongly believe that wine from Europe does not cause hangovers as mentioned. Furthermore, although this might not be appropriate for a podcast, I feel certain that European cigarettes are less harmful.
HM:
No, they aren’t. And naturally, the image on the box is quite horrifying.
LA:
Oh, God.
HM:
… of someone’s damaged lungs, which is horrifying. You think, I shouldn’t be doing this. Yet somehow, having one cigarette in Italy with a glass of Montenegro on the rocks makes it feel entirely distinct. It truly does.
LA:
That’s a lovely image you just painted with your description.
HM:
Vacation cigarettes don’t matter. Alright, I’m simply stating this.
LA:
They don’t.
HM:
Vacation cigarettes don’t count. Don’t allow your buddies who vape constantly everywhere they go in New York City make you feel bad about having just one cigarette during each of your vacations abroad once every nine months. I’m not interested in hearing their criticism.
LA:
I will repeat this to myself when I am in Sicily next month.
HM:
And everybody in Sicily seems to be constantly smoking cigarettes.
LA:
That becomes an issue because when you notice this, you think, well, it’s okay to smoke; I can just do it. Then, upon returning from your vacation, you find yourself back into that habit.
HM:
And yeah, you lost your voice right from the start.
LA:
Yes.
HM:
Sure, everybody seems to be puffing away. Everyone stays incredibly slim too. It appears they’re all thriving. Plus, they seem super fit. Even your grandmother has reached an age of 300! Also, their skin always looks flawless. Meanwhile, what do they eat? Just pasta, sip some red wine, indulge in gelato, and smoke cigarettes. Clearly, we’ve got it all backwards here. This makes me reflect. Given how often I’m traveling for work, one might assume that after returning home, I’d prefer staying put. However, if I stay at home beyond two days, I get restless and feel compelled to rearrange stuff around the place. My spouse usually remarks, “For less money, we could take a trip to Europe.”
LA:
This is me.
HM:
… rather than staying at home since there will be new furniture by Monday if I am back on a Friday.
LA:
Whom do you prefer to travel with during your free time? Is it with your spouse? Or do you enjoy solo travels? What’s your process for planning these getaways?
HM:
Traveling solo comes naturally to me; I often do it for business purposes since I’m quite self-sufficient and capable. However, during my free time, I enjoy exploring new places alongside my spouse—my dearest companion. His fluency in Italian surpasses mine, which makes having him along beneficial. Yet, I consider myself fortunate because whenever I go on tours, I’m usually accompanied by close friends who mean the world to me. For instance, Raymond joins as an opener, whereas Tina manages everything behind the scenes. Consequently, I find myself constantly surrounded by people dear to my heart, allowing us all to witness many parts of the globe collectively. Last year, our journey took us across Australia and New Zealand, making those moments among the finest experiences of my lifetime. Hence, I genuinely appreciate these opportunities.
LA:
Sure. Hold on, could you provide some information about Australia and New Zealand? We recently had another comedian named Catherine Cohen on.
HM:
Oh, love her.
LA:
…, approximately half a year ago, she visited there for the very first time during her tour and underwent quite a profound transformation as a result.
HM:
It was astounding. Allow me to explain why. Let’s talk about the comedic sensibility over there—it’s simply fantastic. When you step onto their stage, expect them to swiftly see through any pretense. To succeed, you must be straightforward with your material, which is precisely what audiences desire. Australian humor reminds me quite a bit of British wit—cheeky, crude, and deadpan; embrace these elements fully. Audiences hunger for authenticity. This resonates deeply with my own values.
LA:
When discussing particular women’s stories and your individual experiences as a woman, I believe there is an inherent universality to them.
HM:
Absolutely. Whenever I visit various cities or countries, I enjoy interacting directly with locals and asking them about their experiences. For instance, I might ask, “Can you share what’s currently happening?” Or during crowd interactions, I could inquire, “What issues are you grappling with? And since you reside in Melbourne, can you tell me about your current challenges so I can better understand where you’re coming from too.” In my view, our similarities often outweigh our differences.
LA:
What astonished you during those discussions? What insights did people share with you?
HM:
I wasn’t exactly shocked. It’s more like, oh, everyone seems to be going through IVF simultaneously. Some of us are storing their eggs, others are attempting pregnancy concurrently. All of us feel overwhelmed. Many are using hair growth supplements due to stress-induced hair loss. Essentially, everybody is striving to keep things under control as I’ve come to understand.
LA:
I believe that since we’re around the same age in our thirties, many discussions often revolve around friends who are freezing their eggs or undergoing IVF. It seems like just recently, these topics haven’t come up much at all, but now every time I grab a drink with someone, they inevitably arise in conversation somehow.
HM:
Sure, here’s your revised version:
Initially, you might not realize what you’re unaware of until suddenly everything becomes clear. During the pandemic, with some downtime due to canceled tours, I decided to freeze my eggs as I discovered unexpected issues with my fertility. The process required multiple attempts; two ended unsuccessfully before we finally managed to preserve an embryo. However, experts suggest that the chances of this embryo implanting successfully are under 0.4%, leaving us in constant turmoil over decisions made too late. We often wonder why nobody warned us earlier. My aim now is to take control rather than react impulsively since navigating the entertainment industry can be overwhelming. Thus, additional cycles of IVF may become necessary to create more viable embryos. Life has shown us that crucial information was missing when we needed it most, and now many find themselves scrambling at midlife to address these challenges proactively.
LA:
I feel annoyed by everybody who brings up the ticking clock. Yet at the same time, I think to myself, damn, darn.
HM:
I understand. This year I turned 38, and my mother gave birth to me when she was 40. She keeps reassuring me saying, “Everything’s going to be okay.” But honestly, Mom, you had great genes. Remember how you used to smoke cigarettes and drink wine nightly during your pregnancy with me? Meanwhile, now I’m diligently popping vitamins, ensuring I use melatonin for better sleep, and even sporting an Aura ring because I believe these steps contribute to a healthier lifestyle. That’s precisely why I’ve decided that heading to Europe is what I’ll do; maybe then I can conceive more easily. After all, being relaxed should help significantly.
LA:
The shoulders drop.
HM:
My shoulders slump, and suddenly I’ve lost ten pounds. Before long, I find out I’m expecting twins. I believe everybody opts for IVF; it costs about the same. So, if you can afford to spend the money, you might as well go for it.
IVF
Or simply head to Italy for a couple of weeks, and chances are you might find yourself pregnant due to the relaxation. That’s exactly our issue; we’re always tightly strung. We pursue goals and dreams relentlessly without ever unwinding. Sure, it sounds simpler than it actually is, which is precisely why I escape regularly. My schedule is precise, and my team understands that I’ll push myself hard from January through June. But come summertime, make sure you grant me at least three uninterrupted weeks where I can switch both my mind and phone off entirely. This time is essential for me.
LA:
When you plan those three weeks, I assume you’re heading to Europe.
HM:
Yes.
LA:
Italy.
HM:
Actually, this year we plan to visit Portugal and Majorca. It’s a slight change of pace. And I’ll head over to Italy for Christmas. No worries though; I’ll make sure to catch up with my friends and family in Florence. Yes, visiting Portugal is definitely on the agenda.
LA:
Have you been before?
HM:
I haven’t been.
LA:
Oh, that’s so exciting.
HM:
Sure, everyone in my travel circle kept saying, “Heather, you should diversify your destinations.” Since I’ve explored numerous countries across the globe and spent quite some time in various parts of Europe, they suggested there are still many spots worth seeing. So, we’re heading to Portugal, which excites me greatly. Additionally, we’ll spend a bit of time in Majorca.
LA:
What steps do you take when preparing for a trip to an unfamiliar location? Do you follow specific strategies or tips? Or do you prefer winging it as you go? How structured is your approach typically?
HM:
For my vacation planning, I put in extensive effort throughout the year and anticipate it greatly. That’s why every second counts for me; thus, arranging accommodations and trips brings me immense satisfaction. Watching other travel influencers’ content excites me even more. Afterward, I meticulously organize each aspect of my journey. Whenever I discover an excellent location, I maintain detailed records.
If anyone reaches out via direct message, text, or phone after seeing where I’ve traveled and whom I’ve met, they’ll see how returning becomes important to me. It feels almost familial at times. In Rome, there’s a restaurant named Il Falchetto—utterly captivating! They feel like part of my extended family now. Additionally, I frequent another spot known as Il Parione in Florence. These places hold special significance for me—I try visiting them one or two times annually since meeting their staff makes me feel connected. Feeding someone creates loyalty; should you nourish me well enough, rest assured, I’ll spread word about your establishment far and wide because everyone deserves to experience what you offer firsthand.
LA:
I have just one question since I must find out: Are you acquainted with Jane Fonda?
HM:
I am. She’s my girlfriend.
LA:
How did this happen? I can’t imagine anyone in Hollywood who would intrigue me more for conversation.
HM:
Allow me to share something about Jane. When Jane contacted me after relocating to Atlanta, she mentioned her remarkable nonprofit named GCAP, an initiative based in Georgia aimed at educating young people to avoid teenage pregnancies. She invited me to co-host her upcoming birthday event alongside her charitable endeavor. My response was, “Are you serious? It’s such an honor.” As someone originally from Atlanta, hosting this occasion felt both special and meaningful.
We quickly developed a close bond, and now each year when I return home, I organize this fundraising dinner aligned with her birthday celebration. Her presence makes everything worthwhile; she even appeared as a guest on my podcast. If ever needed, I can reach out to her via email, phone call, or text anytime—I feel confident knowing our connection remains strong. Beyond being witty and astute, Jane always speaks candidly without mincing words. This combination of toughness and humor resonates deeply within me.
What truly stands out is how fortunate I am to count among my friends individuals like Jane—people whose wisdom and guidance one might seek during challenging times. Knowing I could turn to her for genuine, insightful counsel brings immense comfort. Thus, I hold deep appreciation for havingJaneinmylife.
LA:
If folks wish to join your journey, and learn about your upcoming performances, how can they get information regarding the cruise scheduled for 2027? Where should they look for details on where you’ll be appearing next?
HM:
Visit heatherontour.com for all details on where I’ll be exploring around the globe. To keep up with my adventures, follow me on Instagram and TikTok under @heatherkmcahon.
LA:
Heather, this is such an enjoyable activity.
HM:
Thank you for including me.
LA:
Thank you so much.
HM:
Wow, I can’t figure out why this feels so daunting. It’s actually very peaceful, plus you look so relaxed and intelligent, and meanwhile, I’m just getting all flustered over here.
LA:
Thanks for tuning into Women Who Travel. This podcast is hosted by Lale Arikoglu, whom you can follow on Instagram @lalehhanna. The sound technician behind this episode is Pran Bandi. We also extend our gratitude to Jake Lummus for his technical assistance. The mixing process was handled by Amar Lal from Macrosound. Leading the production team is Jude Kampfner, with Stephanie Kariuki serving as the executive producer. Additionally, Chris Bannon oversees Condé Nast Global Audio as its head.
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